January 18, 2006
If New York’s Irish Claim Nobility, Science May Back Up the Blarney
By NICHOLAS WADE
Listen more kindly to the New York Irishmen who assure you that the blood of early Irish kings flows in their veins. At least 2 percent of the time, they are telling the truth, according to a new genetic survey.
The survey not only bolsters the bragging rights of some Irishmen claiming a proud heritage but also provides evidence of the existence of Niall of the Nine Hostages, an Irish high king of the fifth century A.D. regarded by some historians as more legend than real.
The survey shows that 20 percent of men in northwestern Ireland carry a distinctive genetic signature on their Y chromosomes, possibly inherited from Niall, who was said to have had numerous sons, or some other leader in a position to have had many descendants.
About one in 50 New Yorkers of European origin – including men with names like O’Connor, Flynn, Egan, Hynes, O’Reilly and Quinn – carry the genetic signature linked with Niall and northwestern Ireland, writes Daniel Bradley, the geneticist who conducted the survey with colleagues at Trinity College in Dublin. He arrived at that estimate after surveying the Y chromosomes in a genetic database that included New Yorkers.
About 400,000 city residents say they are of Irish ancestry, according to a 2004 Census Bureau survey.
“I hope this means that I inherit a castle in Ireland,” the novelist Peter Quinn said by phone from the Peter McManus cafe in Chelsea. Some McManuses also have the genetic signature. (“I hang out with kings,” Mr. Quinn said.)
He said his father used to tell him that all the Quinn men were bald from wearing a crown. But he added, “We spent 150 years in the Bronx, and I think we wiped out all the royal genes in the process.”
The report appears in the January issue of The American Journal of Human Genetics.
If he was indeed the patriarch, Niall of the Nine Hostages would rank among the most prolific males in history, behind Genghis Khan, ancestor of 16 million men in Asia, but ahead of Giocangga, founder of China’s Manchu dynasty and forefather of some 1.6 million. This calculation, and the estimate of the I.M.H. signature’s frequency in New York, were derived from a database of Y chromosome mutations.
The writer and actor Malachy McCourt said he was not surprised, since every Irish person is related to a king.
“They didn’t mind who they slept with, and they had first dibs,” he said. “It’s so boring. It’s not like the house of Windsor; every tribe had its own king.”
The link between the Niall Y chromosome and social power, which would have enabled the king to leave many descendants, “stretches back to the fifth century, which is a long time in Western European terms,” Dr. Bradley said.
Asked if he himself carried the Niall signature, Dr. Bradley said he did and was “quite pleased,” even though tradition holds that Niall captured and enslaved St. Patrick, who brought Christianity to Ireland.
Niall is said to have obtained hostages from each of the five provinces that then constituted Ireland, as well as from Scotland, the Saxons, the Britons and the Franks. He is thought to be the patriarch of the Ui Neill, meaning “the descendants of Niall,” a group of dynasties that claimed the high kingship and ruled the northwest and other parts of Ireland from about A.D. 600 to 900.
When the Irish took surnames, however, around A.D. 1000, some chose names associated with the Ui Neill dynasties. Dr. Bradley tested Irishmen with Ui Neill surnames and found the I.M.H. signature was much more common among them than among Irishmen as a whole.
Dr. Katherine Simms, a Celtic historian at Trinity College who advised the geneticists and was a co-author of their report, said some historians had assumed that the common ancestor of the Ui Neill was “merely a mythical divine ancestor figure, imagined in order to explain the political links that existed between the dynasties themselves in the later period.”
But Dr. Bradley’s findings, she said, “appear to confirm that the Ui Neill really did come from a common ancestor,” and perhaps that the mythical narrative of Niall’s birth and ascent to kingship “had a genetic basis.”
The earliest Irish genealogies, if true, must have been recorded in oral form for several generations, since writing did not become common in Ireland until 600. Dr. Daibhi O’Croinin of the National University of Ireland in Galway said he was confident that “extensive genealogical material” could have been memorized and put into writing later, but “whether Niall of the Nine Hostages ever existed is itself a moot point.”
Another Celtic expert, Dr. Catherine McKenna of Harvard University, said in an e-mail message that “historians will be skeptical about the notion that all of the Ui Neill descend from the ancestor who seems to be implied by the genetic evidence, or that this ancestor was Niall Noigiallach (Niall of the Nine Hostages) himself.”
She said the number of Niall’s supposed sons grew from 4 to 14 as new dynasties achieved power and claimed descent from Niall. “The evidence for the Ui Neill as a political construct is strong enough that historians wouldn’t readily believe in the historical reality of Niall himself,” she said.
Still, the new genetic evidence may convince historians that there was a common ancestor for at least one of the major branches of the Ui Neill, such as the Cenel nEogain, which lived in an area of northwest Ireland where the I.M.H. is most common.
“In fact,” Dr. McKenna said, “I find the evidence, from that point of view, really fascinating.”
Michelle O’Donnell contributed reporting for this article.
Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company
FROM A TRIP TO IRELAND 2001
“A JOURNEY THROUGH COUNTY CORK”
Attached to a bakery, Jakes provided one of the best “soup-of-the-day” we had had. A menu anywhere in Ireland that advertises “soup-of-the-day” is invariably “Cream of Vegetable” soup. Only once on our trip was the “soup-of-the-day” not this. Rich and creamy, with a piece of wheaten bread on the side, this soup clings to your innards. Jakes also had the best lemon pie I have ever had and the piece was humungous!

They lie at the top of the hill
On a road that went to others
But now leads to nowhere.
Overgrown with gorse and bramble,
There are no signs – no recognition.
The gate and turnstile,
Encase their shrine.
Here lie Chieftains and seanachies,
Bards, farmers, and townspeople –
Makers of the past – now forgotten.
From massive tombs open to the wind,
To Celtic crosses once lovingly carved,
And small markers hand-tolled crudely,
And beyond – to the unmarked expanse
of the famine graves – all silent now.
Moss and weeds cling to the stones,
Yet mayflowers and bluebells battle them
to stand sentinel over all who lie here –
A precious splash of colour in salute.
A crow shrieks menacingly from on high –
His cry a warning that this is his domain now,
And that it is he who is guardian and
Caretaker of the souls that lie within.
There is family buried here,
On the hillside above Clonakilty.
Their names have passed down
Through the stormy generations
And crossed the seas to Canada.
Here lies John, and Daniel and Michael
Alone you are, but not forgotten,
Your memory crosses the sea with me.
It was a clear day, but cool, as we left Clonakilty to explore West Cork and Donovan territory. We took the N71 towards Rosscarbery, the birthplace of O’Donovan Rossa in 1831. He was born the same year our people left Ireland. We stopped in the small village of Leap – a one-way street village, squeezed between two steep hillsides. We were really in Donovan territory now as evidenced by the many shop-fronts signs with Donovan on them – or perhaps it was one wealthy Donovan who owned all of them! It seemed that half the village was going into mass so mother and Jane followed them in while I went to explore the High Street and the graveyard behind the church that was literally built into the hillside. It was a steep climb to the cemetery behind and I wondered how the pallbearers managed such a climb after funerals with caskets as well! There were several O’Donovans buried here and many of their tombs listed their farm names as well. But again, the graveyard was modern – early 20th century.

Journals/Diaries
March 1903 – A Month in the Life of Angella Riordan
Submitted by Donna Hicks
Angella Riordan was born Oct. 24, 1880, in North Teteagouche, New Brunswick. When first settled by the Irish, the community was called Kinsale. Her father was Daniel Riordan and her mother was Mary-Ann Hall (there were relatives in the town of Bathurst). The house that she grew up in still stands in the Upper Settlement. It was built in 1857 (a stamp of the year can be seen on one of the roof beams).
The house is occupied by one of Dan and Mary’s grandsons, Jim Boyle. The homestead of the Halls still stands as well, up the road from Boyle’s. It is a working farm, and is owned by Margie and Peter DeGraaf. Judging by the style of the construction, this house is likely the oldest of three in Teteagouche, the second-oldest being Powercroft, the original homestead of the Powers. Angella Riordan married Alexander Kelley (Kelly now) whose family lived in the lower settlement. She married him a few years after the diary was written and by that time, being around the ripe old age of 25 or more, was considered an old maid in the standard of the day.
The Kellys lived in the part of Kinsale that some of us still refer to as Kelly’s Hill. When Sandy’s father and grandfather first settled, it was in a dirt-floored log cabin at the foot of the hill, close by a spring , but not on the bank of the river where the Mic’Macq usually had their cabins at various locations spread out up and down the river. The Kellys had walked up from the Miramichi to reach their land grant, with one son already born. The Boyles had disembarked in Caraquet, having sailed from Sligo, in either 1837 or 1947. The Halls were United Empire Loyalists from Saint John. To have been able to build a cabin in time for winter’s arrival was not a ‘luxury’ that all the settlers had. The O’Connels were taken in by the French in Petit Rocher in order to survive and one of the Wheltons recounts a story of how his ancestors had to turn the root end of a spruce blowdown into a shelter at Black Rock or thereabouts, in what is referred to as the Downshore area on the Baie de Chaleurs. A few of the names found in the areas on and around our Bay are matches for names that can be found in County Cork: Kinsale, Bandon, Youghall, Black River, Canobie.
This diary excerpt is from 1903, when Angella was 22 years old:
MARCH
March 1st Sunday: A wild gale blew last night but it must have been very soft wind for the snow looked scarcer this morning. The roads are too soft to go to Mass. Water came into the cellar and caused quite a disturbance. Bob came down this evening for a while. Not a very suitable evening for a drive.
March 2nd Mon.: Election day. Amos and Father went down. I sent for some lemons and candy. Weather cold again and roads bad being broken up where soft. Still knitting.
March 3rd, Tuesday: The most important news today informs us that the election of the old members and the most important event is the arrival of Bill Ford. We were so well entertained that we almost forgot to go to bed.
March 4th, Wed.: We spent quite a pleasant day listening to accounts of old times. Bob came down in the morning. I went down the road with Wm in the afternoon to Dan’s and to John Murphy’s. Dan came up in the evening.
March 5th, Thursday: I got up early this morning but still did not get much knitting done to-day. Ma (?) is getting tired of it. M(?)A Boyle came down this evening and stayed for tea. Ed. And Bob came for her. Mr Ford was away all day came back at night.
March 6th, Friday: We had two calls from Bob to-day. Amos went to town and brought home candy & so forth for Mr. Ford’s cold. He made some calls but was home early.
March 7th, Satur.: The quilt is finished or at least the knitting is done but it still has to be sewed together. Amos was down again to-day. Mike O’Kane came up to tell us it was his birthday. Ed. Boyle came down and took Mr. Ford up home.
March 8th, Sunday: Another soft day. Amos and Maggie went to Mass. Mr. Ford came home in the evening. Later Mr. K called. Was up to Mary’s today and saw a nice piece of carpenters work.
March 9th, Monday: Amos and Mr. Ford left us today to go to Clifton. A beautiful soft day. Maggie went to Boyle’s to stay all night with Mary as Bill is away to Peter’s River for sand. Bill arrived home later and so did Maggie.
March 10th, Tues.: J.P. called this afternoon with wood that her papa wished to see me. Maggie went up with me in the evening. We get a drive from Mary’s up with Bob. Saw some pretty fancy work and settled my account for teaching. Amos has not returned yet.
March 11th, Wednes.: Amos and Mr. F came home to day and got pretty wet on the road. It rained quite hard. Dan Ford came up and brought the handsled.
March 12th, Thurs.: I went to Boyle’s this morning accompanied by Wm and stayed till afternoon. Amos went to Peter’s River for sand with Ed. Bob came down in the evening. They piled the boards that were in the kitchen on sleds to take down in the morning. This is the night Uncle Tom’s cabin is to be played in town & I almost regret having refused an offer to go. The night is perfectly bright and beautiful.
March 15th, Sun.: I had enough outing today to make up for the winter. First I went to church (most important event was death of Ed. Boyle) then up to Mary’s afterwards back to the brook on the crust and last but not least I went driving with Mr. K, Amos & B.F. Went to Alexander’s.
March 16th, Mon.: I began a mat today after washing was done. Mrs. B Power & Janie came in the morning. B.F. went down to Dempsey’s & Dan drove him home in the evening. Dan Ford was in too but I was away. Mary & I went to see Mar B And Maggie kept house.
March 17th, Tuesday: Spent the day hooking a mat. Mr. Ford left us this morning. Amos took him to town and went to mass also. No callers to-day.
March 18th, Wed.: Amos went to town again this morning & brought Bart down to spend the day. Mrs. F Roy and Libby M. Call in the afternoon. Nellie Bee & Zita Power at night but I missed the pleasure of their company as I was up at Mary’s. This is her birthday I offered her a present but she refused it though she accepted Amos’ – a pair of kid gloves. We made some fudge.
March 19th, Thurs.: Amos went for sand again. We finished a mat (with the leaves and sticks on it). Dan Ford called.
March 20th, Friday: Some snow fell today but not very much. Still soft weather. Amos brought another load of sand. Dan arrived home this afternoon from the woods looking and feeling well. I made a shirt and trimmed part of my quilt.
March 21st, Satur.: Maggie went for the mail when Amos went for sand but got only Good Liter. Mother put another mat in the frames to-day. Dan Ford came up in the evening.
March 22nd, Sun.: Amos and Dan went to church to-day. I went up to Mary’s in the morning and stayed till after dinner. I was just ready for home when Bob arrived. When I got home I found we had visitors. Mrs. Kelley & Ed. They stayed for tea and afforded much pleasure. Later A. Kelley called and we had some private conversation.
March 23rd, M.: Amos began to take logs to Alex’s mill to-day. I startled Mary by a very early call this morning. I went for a bar of soap for washing. It is snowing this evening.
March 24th, Tues.: There was not much snow fell but it is still wet and dirty. We worked at the mat all day. Mary Kane called or was sent for certain patterns. Dan went up to Boyles to-night.
March 25th, Wed.: Dan went to town this morning with Bill Boyle to get his money and bought a pair of rubbers. Saw John Maloney who had just come home. Also F. Hegg. And P. Burke. We heard today that Bishop Rogers had died on the 21st. Dan Ford was in to-night. We finished the 2nd mat and began the 3rd today.
March 26th, Thur.: Nothing worth recording.
March 27th, Friday: Finished another mat today. Went up to Mary’s in the evening to engage passage to town tomorrow. Bob & Mary are at the house when I come home. Bob leaves his sled and takes our sleigh.
March 28th, Satur.: The boys started off very early this morning to the mill and I prepared to go to town. Started about noon. I bought some red velvet for a waist-cloth for a skirt sateen and several other things. Spent $9.00 in all. Mary & I spent the night at Uncle Edward’s & went to first mass in the town in the morning.
March 29th, Sun: Wil Hall came over to our church with us this morning. Father was down. In the afternoon we were coasting and again in the evening with Bridget Annie and Jor Boyle. Bob was in too.
March 30th, Mon.: Mother and Amos went to town today. Ma went to see Sister Martina. Bob was in for a while. Dan went back with logs and Maggie took Bert up to see his relations.
March 31st, Tues.: We washed to-day and I got a toothache. I might have gone to Dempsey’s but for the. Guss Calnan Came with the tickets.
Further Notes
Patrick’s Landing was the name of upper South Teteagouche at the time. Other place names in the diary are Clifton and Stonehaven (downshore), Belledune (upshore, where there may have been hall relatives)). Spelling of last names is flexible, for example: Doran/Durane; Meighen/Miahen/Meahen; Kelley (which shifted to Kelly); Doust (Doucet, Doucett); Hashey/Hachey; Malowney/Maloney; Kane/O’Kane. There are names of people in the diary who do not live in the community, such as the doctor, the Bishop (Rogers), the agent, Mr. Branch, Maggie Hall(lived in town), Sister Philomene, Sister Martina, Miss McKenna, Kent, Eddy (also a family of Irish immigrants), Mrs. Kearney, S. Williamson.
Branscombe, Hinton and McIntyre. With some of the names one cannot tell if they lived in Kinsale or not: Mrs. Melvin, for example. With the French neighbours, they may have been on some of the back lots or in some of the very nearby communities of Lugar, Ste. Louise, Dunlop. I do not know where Sadie Wells (who marries Nick Hashey) came from. P. Foley comes from across the river where the Foleys ancestors settled.
An Honourable Independence – Johnville, an Irish Community

Picture at (R) above: Cairn at Johnville. Text on plaque: Dedicated to the Memory of the Rt. Reverend John Sweeney, Bishop of Saint John, Whoe Founded the Settlement of Johnville in 1861, and to Those Good Men and Women Who Now Lie Here. “He Does Not Die Who Can Bequeath Some Influence to the Land He Knows.”

2005 Johnville Picnic

As some of these publications may no longer be in print, please check with your library services to determine if they are available for borrowing.
Various Newspaper Entries
Letters to the Herald:
05 January 1878 – Letter from Johnville – Colonization


(2) Ibid.
(3) The Red Vineyard – Reverend B. J. Murdoch – Page 19
(4) The Red Vineyard – Reverend B. J. Murdoch – Page 116
(5) Ibid.
(6) The Scarlet Dawn – Reverend R Myles Hickey, UNIPRESS, Fredericton, N.B. – Page 12
(7) The Scarlet Dawn – Reverend R. Myles Hickey, UNIPRESS, Fredericton, N.B. – Page 97
(8) The Scarlet Dawn – Reverend R. Myles Hickey, UNIPRESS, Fredericton, N.B. – Page 40
(9) Ibid.
(10) The Scarlet Dawn – Reverend R. Myles Hickey, UNIPRESS, Fredericton, N.B. – Page 41
(11) Ibid
“To the memory of all those men
With whom I walked up and down
The ways of The Red Vineyard;
But especially to the memory of those
Who stopped in the journey, and now
Rest softly in their little green bivouacs
In the shadow of the small white crosses,
This book is affectionately dedicated by their
Friend and Comrade”
Returning home from the war, he served as pastor at Jacquet River (1919 – 1921) and at Douglastown (1921 – 1930). By then, the ill effects of his years in military service were definitely manifesting themselves, so that he was forced to give up his pastoral duties and accept a prolonged period of rest. In 1932, he retired from active full-time participation in the ministry and spent several years at Bartibogue, where he produced most of his novels and meditative writings by which he has been recognized as one of the leading prose stylists of Canada. His tenth and last book, “Facing Into The Wind”, arrived from the press on the very day of his death – the final visible achievement of this priest – soldier who has been described by one of his comrades-in-arms as “one of the very best”.
“To all in the Army, Navy and Air Force who went out to meet the “Scarlet Dawn”, but especially to those for whom that Dawn was the Evening of their life, this book is dedicated.”

The prayer that I am going to say with you here this morning is the same prayer that I said here so often – oh, so often – 35 years ago.
You, too, from experience, know this prayer.
“They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old.
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun, and in the morning,
We will remember them; we will remember them.”
Links to other sites and stories about Chaplains BJ Murdoch and RM Hickey, and the war-time Chaplaincy in general:
In addition to the two books mentioned above (The Red Vineyard by Rev. BJ Murdoch and The Scarlet Dawn by Msgr. RM Hickey), another book of interest about war-time Irish New Brunswickers is “North Shore (New Brunswick) Regiment” by Will R. Bird, Brunswick Press 1963. Please check with your local library or book store for availability of these books as one or more of them may no longer be in print.